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Larry Tesler
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Larry Tesler's personal blog at nomodes.com covers design and programming. Since 2013, 17 different Hacker News readers have linked it 18 times, most often “Pub: An early scriptable markup language”. No feed was found, so read it on the site itself.
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Why HN links it
HN readers link this site for Larry Tesler's own materials: his CV, the annotated PUB manual from the Stanford AI Lab, and his adages, including Tesler's Theorem and the modeless editing and cut/copy/paste claims.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 11 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Larry Tesler--A computer scientist in the field of human-computer interaction, best known as the primary inventor of modeless editing and cut, copy, paste; his AI research; and for his work at Xerox PARC, ARM, Apple, Yahoo!, and Amazon. Learn about the people and technologies Larry worked with, and
Most-linked posts?
- /Larry_Tesler_Consulting/Home.html2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2020-03-29
- Pub: An early scriptable markup language2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2020-02-20
- /2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2020-01-28
What Hacker News says?
In the late 1960s/early 1970s, before he went to Xerox PARC and Apple, Larry Tesler wrote an early document system (page formatter) called PUB, for use by other computer programmers at the Stanford AI Lab (SAIL). He has put up the old manual online at http://www.nomodes.com/pub_manual.html with some modern annotations. This PUB was influential in at least two ways: - It was Donald Knuth's first introduction to compu…
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on “Larry Tesler Has Died”Submitted The Law of Conservation of Complexity as a story · 102 points
HN discussionA career in full from his own CV: "Board director for a FTSE 250 company, vp in three Fortune 500 corporations, president of two small software firms. 32 years building and managing teams of software and hardware engineers, designers, researchers, scientists, product managers and marketers to deliver innovative customer-centered products." http://www.nomodes.com/Tesler_CV_Public.pdf
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on “Larry Tesler Has Died”Submitted Manual for PUB (a markup language in 1971) – Larry Tesler as a story · 80 points
HN discussionYes! Thanks! "Primary inventor of modeless editing and cut, copy, paste." http://www.nomodes.com/Larry_Tesler_Consulting/CV_files/NOMO... Since cca 1973. Reference: doi:10.1145/2212877.2212896
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on “The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10”Submitted “The Fallen Apple” Corrections (1999) as a story · 5 points
HN discussionNot just Steve Jobs: the development of the Apple Newton (arguably the precursor to the iPad) was in part led by Larry "NO MODES" Tesler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Tesler http://www.nomodes.com/
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on “The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10”Submitted Larry Tesler's Works as a story · 2 points
HN discussionI definitely wish that I could group tabs when I am working. I keep groups of tabs together, and these tab groups have long lifetimes. I also open various differently size windows depending on the content of each page. All of this is to work around the mess of "good enough" user interfaces that I deal with everyday. If I see myself opening more "ad hoc" tabs, I closed them as soon as I can. I don't need any more cha…
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on “Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess”Submitted A User Experience Retrospective (2004) as a story · 2 points
HN discussionThe guy who invented copy/paste, Larry Tesler, recently passed away last month. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51567695 > Possibly Mr Tesler's most famous innovation, the cut and paste command, was reportedly based on the old method of editing in which people would physically cut portions of printed text and glue them elsewhere. > The command was incorporated in Apple's software on the Lisa computer in 198…
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on “How TV Logos Were Made Before Computers (2017)”Submitted A User Experience Retrospective (2004) as a story · 1 points
HN discussionLarry Tesler (source: http://www.nomodes.com/Larry_Tesler_Consulting/Adages_and_Co... ) "Tesler's Theorem (ca. 1970). My formulation of what others have since called the “AI Effect”. As commonly quoted: “Artificial Intelligence is whatever hasn't been done yet”. What I actually said was: “Intelligence is whatever machines haven't done yet”."
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on “AlphaGo Is Not the Solution to AI”Submitted Pub: An early scriptable markup language as a story · 1 points
HN discussionDepending on which measurements you are talking about, experience is largely irrelevant- as most of the "objective measurements" we are talking about, are about the quality of the UI itself, not the specific quality of the user. here are some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOMS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fittss_law Regarding modes, I encourage you to read this 1973 study, which spawned the first modeless text editor…
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on “Modes in UI are bad; even worse are timed modes”Vi was 1976. The Canon Cat was 1987, and Raskin's work on the Macintosh was before it was launched in 1984. This work was a _response_ to vi and modal editing. And it was _right_ because it's how basically every GUI app and web app in the world works. Sure, programs have functions that while you perform them put you in a special restricted environment, but it's not a mode. If there's a search-and-replace operation g…
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on “Canon Cat”> Look at the Xerox Star, it had everything the Mac had (and more) years earlier. The difference was in its price. You might want to learn more about the history: the work at Xerox PARC was enormously influential but it wasn't happening in a vacuum: https://web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/sites/mac/parc.html “Finally, as several authors have pointed out, there were actually two visits by groups from Apple to Xerox PARC in…
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on “CDE – Common Desktop Environment”> Tesler's Theorem (ca. 1970). My formulation of what others have since called the “AI Effect”. As commonly quoted: “Artificial Intelligence is whatever hasn't been done yet”. What I actually said was: “Intelligence is whatever machines haven't done yet”. Many people define humanity partly by our allegedly unique intelligence. Whatever a machine—or an animal—can do must (those people say) be something other than int…
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on “Borges and AI”
