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meta.ath0.com is a personal blog at meta.ath0.com about culture and security. Since 2012, 31 different Hacker News readers have linked it 38 times, most often “Apple’s great GPL purge”. No feed was found, so read it on the site itself.
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Why HN links it
HN readers cite this blog, especially its 2012 post on Apple's GPL purge, as the source for claims that macOS avoids shipping GPLv3 software. Other posts are linked too.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 22 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Most-linked posts?
- Apple’s great GPL purge17 people · 21 mentions · first linked 2012-02-07
- /2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2023-02-17
What Hacker News says?
More details here: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ […] Anyway, the message is pretty obvious: Apple won’t ship anything that’s licensed under GPL v3 on OS X. Now, why is that? There are two big changes in GPL v3. The first is that it explicitly prohibits patent lawsuits against people for actually using the GPL-licensed software you ship. The second is that it carefully prevents TiVoization,…
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on “Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store”Submitted Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) as a story · 373 points
HN discussionCan you point to actual statements by any company on "why we avoid the GPL?" Here is a great example of Google reversing course on the AGPL (when they reversed their decision to ban AGPL code from Google Code in Sep 2010): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/google_on_open_sour... Apple also _still_ ships GPL code in macOS Sierra 10.12: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ People use GPL soft…
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on “A federal court has denied a pre-trial motion to dismiss a GPL enforcement case”Submitted Apple’s great GPL purge as a story · 241 points
HN discussionIt would indeed be in the best interest of its users, but Apple has apparently decided that it would not be in its own best interest: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ […] Anyway, the message is pretty obvious: Apple won’t ship anything that’s licensed under GPL v3 on OS X. Now, why is that? There are two big changes in GPL v3. The first is that it explicitly prohibits patent lawsuits against p…
Comment linking /2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/
on “Mastering Bash and Terminal”Submitted A Screeching Voice of the Minority as a story · 123 points
HN discussionMore details here: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ […] Anyway, the message is pretty obvious: Apple won’t ship anything that’s licensed under GPL v3 on OS X. Now, why is that? There are two big changes in GPL v3. The first is that it explicitly prohibits patent lawsuits against people for actually using the GPL-licensed software you ship. The second is that it carefully prevents TiVoization,…
Comment linking /2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/
on “Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel”Submitted Apple's Great GPL Purge (2014) as a story · 104 points
HN discussionhttp://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ is the correct link, parent needs to put a space before the close paren raw text: http://hastebin.com/raw/zohoxaxuyi
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on “Why GNU grep is fast (2010)”Submitted Apple’s Great GPL Purge (2012) as a story · 67 points
HN discussionSee article ( http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/)from previous HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3559990 Also, GNU's bulletin on Apple Boycott: https://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull18.html#SEC13 And also this article which explains why apple is BSD mostly: https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/apples-os-x-is-not-...
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on “Why GNU grep is fast (2010)”Submitted Truecrypt warrant canary confirmed? as a story · 65 points
HN discussion> Don't forget Jobs attempted to steal NeXt's fork of the GCC with Obj-C extensions. The FSF had to sue NeXt to get them to release their modifications. Actually there was no lawsuit. NeXT released the patches after a warning: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/talks/LinuxTag-2011/compliance.html > Stealing Free Software is cheap from a business perspective. This is why I recommend everyone use AGPLv3 whenever possible (and consi…
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on “Poll on macOS 10.12 is broken”Submitted No, I am not interested in joining your proprietary social network as a story · 7 points
HN discussion> A company can't ever fire a customer. Why not? > to speak of firing customers is an abusive cognitive power play. The guy responsible for the term "fired" was well known for abusive power plays - http://meta.ath0.com/2015/03/17/etymology-of-youre-fired/ > Patterson had a way to deal with executives who particularly displeased him. in a previous case, he had the businessman’s desk and chair dragged out onto the law…
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on “IoT garage door opener maker disables customer’s service after bad review”Submitted Can we fix social media? as a story · 6 points
HN discussion> They made an OS that users can't bear to upgrade because of removed features I thought the story was that Apple had a problem with GNU licensing, and that was the reason everything got locked to ~2007 software, forcing everyone who wants to use bash and GNU utils to resort to a package manager. Yeah… googling it, people have long been saying GPL v3 is what Apple has a problem with: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/…
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on “Ask HN: Best Alternative to Homebrew in 2021?”Submitted Apple’s Great GPL Purge (2012) as a story · 4 points
HN discussionFor me its the 5th one now. It shows another blog based on this post( http://meta.ath0.com/2012/01/05/googleplusungood/ ) as 2nd in the search for "jon mitchell jury duty".
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on “Google+ Is Going To Mess Up The Internet”Submitted Social networks – It's worse than you think as a story · 3 points
HN discussionRelated, for more context: http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/
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on “Nano 5.0”Submitted (2012) Apple's great GPL purge as a story · 3 points
HN discussionThe tool chain was developed in academia for 6 years before they adopted [1]. With an incredibly pervasive BSD-esque license [2]. Thus, companies can use the code without giving themselves back. This is why Sony uses BSD based OS on the playstation [3]. Its cheap, they can modify it, and keep what changes they deem necessary. And yes, I'm aware Apple has given back to the project. But it seems pretty obvious why the…
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on “Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free”Submitted Why is the JavaScript ecosystem like this as a story · 2 points
HN discussionApple has banned GPL from macOS quite some time ago and has been pruning GPL apps. See http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/
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on “Apple Addresses Privacy Concerns Surrounding App Authentication in macOS”Submitted How and why social media came to be awful (2019) as a story · 2 points
HN discussionOnly works if you are the sole copyright holder, and not using code from someone else. > https://github.com/peter-iakovlev/Telegram/issues/157 > http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-purge/ > https://thenextweb.com/dd/2019/06/04/why-does-macos-catalina...
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on “Audacious 4.0 released, switches from GTK to Qt 5”Submitted Apple’s great GPL purge (2012) as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSomewhat related, I just found out that OSX ships with units version 1.0. The prompt gives "586 units, 56 prefixes" instead of the post's "1311 units, 63 prefixes". So if you want to try this you can `brew install gnu-units` and run gunits instead: "3070 units, 109 prefixes, 109 nonlinear units" It's pretty annoying that OSX ships with such outdated utilities [1] [1] http://meta.ath0.com/2012/02/05/apples-great-gpl-…
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on “500 miles (2002)”Submitted Can we fix social media? as a story · 1 points
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