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mythz blog is a personal blog at mythz.servicestack.net about programming and systems. Since 2013, 8 different Hacker News readers have linked it 11 times, most often “The Deep Insights of Alan Kay”. The last post was in 2013, but the archive is still widely read.
Too few sampled comments (7) to say how often HN recommends it.?
Why HN links it
Linked for mythz's writing on Alan Kay, objects versus message passing, RPC, microservices and choosing TypeScript. Commenters cite it as a source on Kay's views; one disputes its reading of objects.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 7 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
If you haven’t heard of Alan Kay you’ll likley have heard one of his many famous quotes, the most popular, likely his 1971 gem: The best …
Most-linked posts?
- The Deep Insights of Alan Kay8 people · 9 mentions · first linked 2013-02-27
What Hacker News says?
> Of course if you prefer a language, use it, but don't argue that your preference has any bearing on how well your language helps you avoid issues like runtime type errors that other languages don't experience. You either have to write more unit tests, or pray, or be infallible. I've not once mentioned my preference. My preference and where I spend the majority of my time developing server libraries and Services C#…
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on “Why We Chose Typescript”Submitted The Deep Insights of Alan Kay as a story · 191 points
HN discussionInterestingly, it seems RPC was one of those older ideas that was resurrected and replaced remote message passing when Smalltalk was phased out. Alan Kay on RPC: "The people who liked objects as non-data were smaller in number, and included myself, Carl Hewitt, Dave Reed and a few others – pretty much all of this group were from the ARPA community and were involved in one way or another with the design of ARPAnet->I…
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on “A pattern language for microservices”Submitted The Deep Insights of Alan Kay (2013) as a story · 64 points
HN discussionAlan Kay doesn't consider "remote procedure calls" to be "object oriented programming". http://mythz.servicestack.net/blog/2013/02/27/the-deep-insig... mythz> On RPC, and how it distorts developers mindsets in architecting and building systems: Kay> The people who liked objects as non-data were smaller in number, and included myself, Carl Hewitt, Dave Reed and a few others – pretty much all of this group were from t…
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on “Alan Kay and Missing Messages”Submitted The Deep Insights of Alan Kay (2013) as a story · 3 points
HN discussionI think you're barking up the wrong class hierarchy, trying to reformulate objects, messages and parameters as abstract data types. Alan Kay has been quite clear about his opinion that “Abstract Data Types” is not OOP. http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay... >One of the things I should have mentioned is that there were two main paths that were catalysed by Simula. The early one (just by accid…
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on “Alan Kay and Missing Messages”Submitted The Deep Insights of Alan Kay (2013) as a story · 2 points
HN discussionNice to see another post addressing the biggest issue in Software Engineering head-on. This of course is nothing new - it's something Alan Kay has been telling us for more than 3 decades [1], who also has an enlightening talk addressing the biggest problem facing software engineering [2]. Before vanishing from the Internet node's Ryan Dahl left a poetic piece on how "utterly fucked the whole thing is" [3]. Steve Yeg…
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on “The Future Programming Manifesto”More Alan Kay: http://mythz.servicestack.net/blog/2013/02/27/the-deep-insig...
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on “Alan Kay – Normal Considered Harmful (2009) [video]”I don't recall Alan Kay pining specifically for Smalltalk; mostly he just agitates for a world in which people at least understand the big ideas behind the original articulation of OOP. In fact, Kay tried to kill Smalltalk way back in the 70s[1]. [1]: http://mythz.servicestack.net/blog/2013/02/27/the-deep-insig...
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on “Redline Smalltalk for the JVM”