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Real Climate Science is a personal blog at realclimatescience.com about science and politics. Since 2016, 34 different Hacker News readers have linked it 62 times. It is still writing: the last post was on 2026-10-16, and you can follow it by feed.
62mentions?
6recommend?
34HN people?
2016–2026first – last linked?
Sometimes recommended · 6 of 40 sampled comments recommend it?
Why HN links it
HN readers link Tony Heller's blog for critiques of NOAA and NASA temperature records and adjustments, which commenters cite as sources. The blog's climate claims are contested in the threads.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 40 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" - Richard Feynman
Most-linked posts?
- /61-fake-data/2 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2019-09-26
What Hacker News says?
>> I'm on the side of "Question authority" and you seem to be on the side of "Accept authority". That's fine, but I'm not interested in taking conclusions as gospel simply because NASA says so, no matter how many models nor lines of code were used. > I never said that. You did quote bloomberg "ModelE2 contains something on the order of 500,000 lines of code, and is run on a supercomputer at the NASA Center for Clima…
Comment linking /2017/01/systematic-destruction-of-the-temperature-record-since-2000/
on “Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener”Submitted 100% of US Warming Is Due to NOAA Data Tampering as a story · 14 points
HN discussionExcept it absolutely DID happen and I can prove it. Here is a report published in 1999 by NOAA and NASA showing temperatures much higher in the 1930's with cooling through the end of the century. Skip to page 37 and look at figure 6. Note the high point of 1.5 degrees C in the 30's from 1999 data. Warning, PDF file: https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1999/1999_Hansen_ha03200f.pd... Compare this with the same data today…
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on “World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Years”Submitted NOAA September Temperature Fraud as a story · 2 points
HN discussionI'll use direct NASA/NOAA data so there's no attacking my sources this time. Here is a report published in 1999 by NOAA and NASA showing temperatures much higher in the 1930's with cooling through the end of the century. Temperature data outside the US wasn't very reliable in the 20th century, so it's best to focus on the US. Skip to page 37 and look at figure 6. Make a mental note the high point of 1.5 degrees C in…
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on “World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Years”Submitted Autumn Snow Cover Second Highest on Record as a story · 1 points
HN discussionIt's extraordinarily worrying to me that the American Left uses 'science' as a shield for its ideological positions and the adherents of its ideology lap it up and repeat it. I don't care so much about the ideological positions. What I care about is the constant, systemic undermining of science . Take your comment, for instance. You throw about the notion of 'scientific truth', as if this is even a thing. Science do…
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on “Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script”This page goes into it some more and does some recalculations to control for TOBS: https://realclimatescience.com/no-excuse-for-data-tampering/ In this article he makes substantially similar points but goes into the interpolation process: https://realclimatescience.com/understanding-noaa-us-tempera... After I read this article, I downloaded the NOAA datasets to check that the claims were correct. It's easy to write…
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on “Death Valley soars to 130 degrees, Earth’s highest temperature since 1931”No problem, I find this conversation enjoyable and useful. I went looking for info on the funding of CRU. The best I could find was this: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/copenhagen-climate-ch... The Climategate docs had a spreadsheet with funding sources. So that's quite old now, but back then it was about £13 million from various sources, all of which were the government. I suppose they probably do get a bit…
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on “Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming”>A reference would increase confidence in these assertions. The one and only Tony Heller: https://realclimatescience.com/2021/06/yes-climate-change-ma... >Solar activity hasn’t been increasing massively over the last century, whilst average temperatures did. Not really. The earth has been gently cooling down since the 1930s. The US has the best temperature records which is why it's the most useful to study.
Comment linking /2021/06/yes-climate-change-made-it-worse/
on “Canada weather: Dozens dead as heatwave shatters records”There’s a graph going around the internet from Steve Goddard a.k.a. Tony Heller, claiming to show that temperature in the U.S. has been declining, using only high temperatures, using only summertime temperatures, using only data since 1918, based on a simple average without taking into account new stations coming online or old stations retiring or area-weighting or any of that “expert” stuff I like that this piece m…
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on “USA Temperature: can I sucker you?”Yes please see Stephen Schneider’s book talked about in The NY Times in 1976. He worked at NASA at one point: https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/20...
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on “Even 50-year-old climate models correctly predicted global warming”All that's fine, and if you keep clicking through some of the links I posted you'll find that the sorts of analyses you're asking for have been done, because indeed, it's not enough to merely see smoke. You need to find the fire too. I can't sum up every possible argument in a HN post, only show that there are problematic signs worthy of further and deeper inspection. That is, skepticism isn't some weird cranky idea…
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on “The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013)”Not remotely what is happening, is it? Actually, I disagree. There's a lot of that happening. You just aren't exposed to it. You say you'd be genuinely fascinated by a debate about how scientists could be mistaken. OK, let's find out if you mean it. The last debate we had here on this got derailed into a discussion of Conservative party policy. Let's keep it on science this time. To start, let me say that I'm not a…
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on “The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013)”It's not about climate it's about political control. It's a political boogeyman. Left wing politicians have successfully brainwashed a generation to believe they’re gonna die in 12 years unless socialists and communists control our planet and the lives of everyone on it. I was a huge believer in Climate Change as a youth. I wanted to save the environment. Then I caught one lie. Then two. Then three. Then I read the…
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on “Browser-based climate change simulation”Also, the 12-year deadline is a talking point for politicians. However the IPCC said there is not some “magic global mean temperature or total emissions that separate 'fine' from 'catastrophic’” [1] 1. https://www.axios.com/climate-change-scientists-comment-ocas... Someone at Reason read the UN/IPCC report, said there is no doomsday in it: https://reason.com/2018/10/11/how-big-of-a-deal-is-half-of-a... There's also…
Comment linking /61-fake-data/
on “How climate change is melting, drying and flooding Earth – in pictures”What about the NOAA data adjustments and climate scientists openly discussing getting rid of the 1940s warmth: https://realclimatescience.com/61-fake-data/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T86IIKK9FRg And lack of warming trend in the raw data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWanx8ojmOkcazzRhDao... And the new USCRN data showing no significant warming trend in the USA in 12 years: https://wattsupwiththat.…
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on “How climate change is melting, drying and flooding Earth – in pictures”The guradian was obviously alwayst filled with assholes who were only interessted in scaring the shit out of people. [1][2] [1] https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Ne... [2] https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/20...
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on “Chemicals used in packaging may play role in 100k US deaths a year – study”So much confirmation bias. I haven't looked into Germany, but the French heatwave -- which is mentioned in the article -- has almost the same record temperatures as were recorded in 1930, 1870, 1773 and 1718, when, presumably, there was much less CO2. [1] The other day's record-setting France temperature of 115F was recorded in Toulouse, where the temperature rose for one hour above the record set in 1923. Hardly co…
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on “Germany records hottest June temperature”There’s not much to understand— some crank thinks he found the dark secret of climate scientists. His blog is the typical nutter mishmash of mindless conspiracy theories from “putting mRNA In the food supply” ( https://realclimatescience.com/2022/01/putting-mrna-in-the-f... ) to antivaxxer garbage ( https://realclimatescience.com/2022/01/study-shows-covid-vac... ) to big pharma conspiracies ( https://realclimatescie…
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on “World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded”Funny, today on the Drudge Report, I read that we've had record cooling in the past 8 months. http://realclimatescience.com/2016/11/record-global-cooling-... There's a large online anti-global warming movement that needs to be addressed. Actually, there's an anti-everyhing movement (e.g vaccines). The general public is not going to know who to believe. Do more people read Drudge or Scientific American?
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on “Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Science”I read Heller's blog. I've also done a bit of double checking of his work because indeed, what he keeps uncovering is extremely interesting and should I feel really have been discussed in popular journalism about climate before now. I want to check more of his claims in future. But for now, I only checked how many data points in the NOAA US temperature dataset are now the output of model simulations and not actual m…
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on “Animation shows the temperature change by country from year 1880 to 2019”Here is the link for an article that cites all the relevant sources: https://realclimatescience.com/2019/03/latest-shameless-frau... ps: please ignore the inflamed content. The sources are good
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on “New Satellite Photos Show Climate Change Is Sweeping Europe”This is a great example of misleading "science". I don't believe that the data here is being misrepresented. But the conclusions are not valid. The gist of the article is: 1. Arctic ice thickness and extent are cyclical and uncorrelated with atmospheric CO2 levels. 2. NOAA sea ice graphs start at a cyclical peak (1979), which incorrectly leads people to believe that Arctic sea ice thickness and extent are on a consi…
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on “Running the numbers on an insane scheme to save Antarctic ice”There's a strong political bias here, but the data is compelling: https://realclimatescience.com/ he compares a lot of raw data to "adjusted" data. He claims that the reported temperatures are fraudulent: https://realclimatescience.com/understanding-noaa-us-tempera... I'm not an expert, but what I see there is pretty compelling, I've never really found a good refutation anywhere.
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on “July was world's hottest month on record, WMO says”> You're not the arbiter of what's reasonable doubt. You are attacking a strawman, and boy, you are attacking it hard. I never said that I'm the arbiter of what's reasonable doubt is. I said that this is scientific concensus. > You should spend some of your own time researching both sides of the argument [..] At one point in time, there actually was a debate and I did research both 'sides'. But there are no two side…
Comment linking /2019/04/does-co2-lead-or-lag-temperature/
on “Greenland and Antarctica ice loss accelerating”The West Antarctic has been collapsing for centuries. This is nothing new, and it has nothing to do with atmospheric carbon dioxide. [1] It will take 800 years for the sea level to rise six feet at the rate it is and has been rising over the past 120 years. The news media likes to scare you with drummed up tales about the end times due to global warming. Like all end times apocalyptic forecasts, the dates this apoca…
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on “Scientists discover 91 volcanoes below Antarctic ice sheet”It's not so much that the surface temperature record isn't accurate, it's that it's been systematically tampered with / adjusted. https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/20... Older data has been adjusted to be cooler and newer data has been adjusted to be warmer. You can debate why it's been adjusted all you want, but the fact that the adjustments are there and they are adjusted to make newer data…
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on “Average Global Temperatures since 1850”> knew perfectly well how to record temperature It's easy to read a thermometer, yes, and mercury thermometers are pretty accurate. But is that recorded temperature an accurate measurement of the air temperature? At https://www.nws.noaa.gov/directives/sym/pd01013002curr.pdf you can see the requirements for an accurate temperature measurement site include: - "Over level terrain (earth or sod) typical of the area arou…
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on “The hottest temperature ever reliably measured recorded in Death Valley today”The actual answer is that that page is a joke and full of lies They even still are talking about Obama being Kenyan http://realclimatescience.com/2016/09/who-was-the-first-birt... Really?
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on “Visualizing the Warmest August in 136 Years”
