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Rob Landley
Personal blog · landley.netsystemsprogramminghistory
Rob Landley's personal blog at landley.net covers systems, programming and history. Since 2009, 126 different Hacker News readers have linked it 175 times, most often “What is Toybox?”. It is still writing: the last post was on 2026-03-31, and you can follow it by feed.
Rarely recommended · 2 of 40 sampled comments recommend it?
Why HN links it
HN readers link Rob Landley's site for his Toybox and Aboriginal Linux projects, its historical mirrors of Unix, ASCII and Sun, and his notes. One commenter highly recommends his blogs.
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- One commenter says a post sums up the topic well; another highly recommends the author's blogs.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 40 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Most-linked posts?
- What is Toybox?8 people · 8 mentions · first linked 2014-03-24
- What is Aboriginal Linux?6 people · 6 mentions · first linked 2014-04-01
- Why 0BSD?5 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2015-03-09
- Implementing VisiCalc (2003)5 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2017-10-19
- /toybox/about.html4 people · 6 mentions · first linked 2019-02-22
- Rob Landley on dysfunctional Linux kernel maintainers3 people · 7 mentions · first linked 2015-10-09
- /aboriginal/3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2016-03-23
- The Sourceware Operating System Proposal (1993)3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2014-05-05
- /toybox/3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2017-02-26
- Toybox, a Busybox alternative with a BSD license3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2013-07-27
What Hacker News says?
Yup! In fact the only other data point I have on cat is http://landley.net/aboriginal/history.html which complains about cat being over 800 lines long back in 2002 :) I didn't dig too deeply in 2013, but I did notice that about 2/3rds of the LoC were in headers.
Comment linking /aboriginal/history.html
on “I've Just Liberated My Modules”Submitted Linux Memory Management FAQ as a story · 188 points
HN discussionWhat on earth is cat doing that it needs 36KLoC (with dependencies)? I'm starting to see where http://suckless.org/philosophy and http://landley.net/aboriginal/ are coming from (watch Rob's talks, they're very opinionated but very enjoyable).
Comment linking /aboriginal/
on “I've Just Liberated My Modules”Submitted Institutional memory and reverse smuggling (2011) as a story · 129 points
HN discussionIf you're attached to your copyright: 0-clause BSD is a thing that exists[0]. Toybox uses it. If you want to throw your copyright out the window: The commonly accepted solution seems to be CC-0[1], which tries very hard to disclaim rights and limit liability in as many jurisdictions as possible, complete with a fallback license grant for failed public domain dedications. Because CC-0 makes some people uncomfortable…
Comment linking /toybox/license.html
on “Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]”Submitted Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin, usr/sbin Split [pdf] as a story · 127 points
HN discussionit seems somewhat unlikely. let's follow the trail the existence of bell characters, of course, predates gordon bell's existence itself (they're in the ita2 baudot-murray code from 01932, two years before his birth) so what we're discussing is specifically the assignment of the ascii bell character to the control character corresponding to bell's middle initial it was already ^g in 01963 according to tom jennings's…
Comment linking /history/mirror/ascii.html
on “Gordon Bell has died”Submitted What is Toybox? as a story · 118 points
HN discussionHas anyone ever believed the Linux Foundation to be anything besides an ad-hoc promotional vehicle targeted by and toward large players? Rob Landley sums it up well: http://landley.net/notes-2010.html#18-07-2010
Comment linking /notes-2010.html
on “Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation”Submitted What's wrong with systemd as a story · 110 points
HN discussionAlso for those interested, here is Bryan's take on criticism of Sun: https://landley.net/history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html He wasn't fired or canceled. It is great to see Gen-Xers and Boomers having all the fun in the 1980s and 1990s and then going all prissy on younger people in the 2010s and trying to ruin their careers.
Comment linking /history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html
on “Using LLMs at Oxide”Submitted Toybox, a Busybox alternative with a BSD license as a story · 101 points
HN discussionHere is my experience with Sun and why they failed in the 00s: Linux The only way you could get people with Solaris experience was to hire people from colleges where students had access to expensive hard to access servers. This limited the number of people a company could hire to handle their Solaris servers. I remember being told by the now forgotten snap.com—back when snap.com was a web portal business owned by NB…
Comment linking /history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html
on “What Sun got wrong”Submitted Implementing VisiCalc (2003) as a story · 100 points
HN discussionA non-GPL Busybox alternative like Toybox? http://www.landley.net/toybox/about.html
Comment linking /toybox/about.html
on “VMWare Taken to Court Over GPL Violation”Submitted Aboriginal Linux as a story · 92 points
HN discussionShouldn't mktemp -d -t name.XXXXXX do it? Possibly in combination with setting TMPDIR if you want to create the directory somewhere else than within the default temp directory. Works with GNU mktemp, the old BSD variant on macOS and also Busybox. Current Android uses Toybox, I think? Its mktemp implementation looks like it takes the same flags as Busybox mktemp. https://landley.net/toybox/help.html#mktemp
Comment linking /toybox/help.html
on “How to write idempotent Bash scripts”Submitted The History of OS/2 (2001) as a story · 92 points
HN discussion> Combined with employing more than 8000 people, this means that Atlassian is unprofitable In 1991, Microsoft had 8000 employees. It was producing DOS, Windows 3*, Office, OS/2, tools and compilers. Windows NT was in development. They did not use Jira. I think the main feature of these tools is to make people, who would otherwise be unproductive, feel and look productive. Maybe those people are managers that should…
Comment linking /history/mirror/ms/microsoft_company.htm
on “Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable”Submitted Where did "Aboriginal Linux" come from? Our story so far as a story · 73 points
HN discussionFor those who liked this text and want to read more from the author, have a look at his busybox replacement toybox: http://landley.net/toybox/
Comment linking /toybox/
on “Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin, usr/sbin split (2010)”Submitted The history of Unix is as much about collaboration as technology (1994) as a story · 55 points
HN discussionFor this to happen we would have to use our phones as workstations - just connect monitor and input devices. That's current mission of Rob Landley with his Toybox project ¹. Years ahead of us, but probably will happen. Makes projects like Librem 5, Pinephone and Pinebook crucial in the long run. ¹ http://landley.net/toybox/about.html - see the Why section
Comment linking /toybox/about.html
on “Linus Torvalds on Why ARM Won't Win the Server Space”Submitted Rob Landley on the Linux Foundation (2010) as a story · 29 points
HN discussionThis sounds like Aboriginal Linux: http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html
Comment linking /aboriginal/about.html
on “Build yourself a Linux”Submitted How David Weise got Windows 3 working in protected mode as a story · 26 points
HN discussionRob Landley is working on implementing a full Bash clone (called toysh[1]) in his Toybox project[2]. I'm excited for it to be released - it will be a huge improvement vs. Busybox ash for embedded environments. We'll be able to write scripts that use arrays! [1] https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/pending/s... [2] http://landley.net/toybox/about.html
Comment linking /toybox/about.html
on “Minimal safe Bash script template”Submitted Computer History Resources as a story · 20 points
HN discussionUnix was under assault from various sides. The vendors were fighting amongst themselves for supremacy. Take a look at Larry McVoy's "Free Unix" whitepaper. https://www.landley.net/history/mirror/unix/srcos.html IBM had developed OS/2, but was unable to effectively market it, in large part due to the intransigence of its development partner, Microsoft, who had other designs. Microsoft was of course pushing Windows NT…
Comment linking /history/mirror/unix/srcos.html
on “The Collapse of the Unix Philosophy”Submitted The History of OS/2 (2001) as a story · 20 points
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