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Rob Landley

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Rob Landley's personal blog at landley.net covers systems, programming and history. Since 2009, 126 different Hacker News readers have linked it 175 times, most often “What is Toybox?”. It is still writing: the last post was on 2026-03-31, and you can follow it by feed.

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126HN people?
2009–2026first – last linked?
Links on Hacker News per year · peak 20 in 2024

Rarely recommended · 2 of 40 sampled comments recommend it?

Why HN links it

HN readers link Rob Landley's site for his Toybox and Aboriginal Linux projects, its historical mirrors of Unix, ASCII and Sun, and his notes. One commenter highly recommends his blogs.

Recommended for · 2 comments
One commenter says a post sums up the topic well; another highly recommends the author's blogs.

Summarised by Claude from a sample of 40 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.

Most-linked posts?

  1. What is Toybox?
    8 people · 8 mentions · first linked 2014-03-24
  2. What is Aboriginal Linux?
    6 people · 6 mentions · first linked 2014-04-01
  3. Why 0BSD?
    5 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2015-03-09
  4. Implementing VisiCalc (2003)
    5 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2017-10-19
  5. /toybox/about.html
    4 people · 6 mentions · first linked 2019-02-22
  6. Rob Landley on dysfunctional Linux kernel maintainers
    3 people · 7 mentions · first linked 2015-10-09
  7. /aboriginal/
    3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2016-03-23
  8. The Sourceware Operating System Proposal (1993)
    3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2014-05-05
  9. /toybox/
    3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2017-02-26
  10. Toybox, a Busybox alternative with a BSD license
    3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2013-07-27

What Hacker News says?

  1. Yup! In fact the only other data point I have on cat is http://landley.net/aboriginal/history.html which complains about cat being over 800 lines long back in 2002 :) I didn't dig too deeply in 2013, but I did notice that about 2/3rds of the LoC were in headers.

    Comment linking /aboriginal/history.html

    on “I've Just Liberated My Modules”
  2. Submitted Linux Memory Management FAQ as a story · 188 points

    HN discussion
  3. What on earth is cat doing that it needs 36KLoC (with dependencies)? I'm starting to see where http://suckless.org/philosophy and http://landley.net/aboriginal/ are coming from (watch Rob's talks, they're very opinionated but very enjoyable).

    Comment linking /aboriginal/

    on “I've Just Liberated My Modules”
  4. Submitted Institutional memory and reverse smuggling (2011) as a story · 129 points

    HN discussion
  5. If you're attached to your copyright: 0-clause BSD is a thing that exists[0]. Toybox uses it. If you want to throw your copyright out the window: The commonly accepted solution seems to be CC-0[1], which tries very hard to disclaim rights and limit liability in as many jurisdictions as possible, complete with a fallback license grant for failed public domain dedications. Because CC-0 makes some people uncomfortable…

    Comment linking /toybox/license.html

    on “Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]”
  6. Submitted Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin, usr/sbin Split [pdf] as a story · 127 points

    HN discussion
  7. it seems somewhat unlikely. let's follow the trail the existence of bell characters, of course, predates gordon bell's existence itself (they're in the ita2 baudot-murray code from 01932, two years before his birth) so what we're discussing is specifically the assignment of the ascii bell character to the control character corresponding to bell's middle initial it was already ^g in 01963 according to tom jennings's…

    Comment linking /history/mirror/ascii.html

    on “Gordon Bell has died”
  8. Submitted What is Toybox? as a story · 118 points

    HN discussion
  9. vezzy-fnord · 2016-01-21Recommends
    Has anyone ever believed the Linux Foundation to be anything besides an ad-hoc promotional vehicle targeted by and toward large players? Rob Landley sums it up well: http://landley.net/notes-2010.html#18-07-2010

    Comment linking /notes-2010.html

    on “Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation”
  10. Submitted What's wrong with systemd as a story · 110 points

    HN discussion
  11. Also for those interested, here is Bryan's take on criticism of Sun: https://landley.net/history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html He wasn't fired or canceled. It is great to see Gen-Xers and Boomers having all the fun in the 1980s and 1990s and then going all prissy on younger people in the 2010s and trying to ruin their careers.

    Comment linking /history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html

    on “Using LLMs at Oxide”
  12. Submitted Toybox, a Busybox alternative with a BSD license as a story · 101 points

    HN discussion
  13. Here is my experience with Sun and why they failed in the 00s: Linux The only way you could get people with Solaris experience was to hire people from colleges where students had access to expensive hard to access servers. This limited the number of people a company could hire to handle their Solaris servers. I remember being told by the now forgotten snap.com—back when snap.com was a web portal business owned by NB…

    Comment linking /history/mirror/linux/kissedagirl.html

    on “What Sun got wrong”
  14. Submitted Implementing VisiCalc (2003) as a story · 100 points

    HN discussion
  15. A non-GPL Busybox alternative like Toybox? http://www.landley.net/toybox/about.html

    Comment linking /toybox/about.html

    on “VMWare Taken to Court Over GPL Violation”
  16. Submitted Aboriginal Linux as a story · 92 points

    HN discussion
  17. Shouldn't mktemp -d -t name.XXXXXX do it? Possibly in combination with setting TMPDIR if you want to create the directory somewhere else than within the default temp directory. Works with GNU mktemp, the old BSD variant on macOS and also Busybox. Current Android uses Toybox, I think? Its mktemp implementation looks like it takes the same flags as Busybox mktemp. https://landley.net/toybox/help.html#mktemp

    Comment linking /toybox/help.html

    on “How to write idempotent Bash scripts”
  18. Submitted The History of OS/2 (2001) as a story · 92 points

    HN discussion
  19. > Combined with employing more than 8000 people, this means that Atlassian is unprofitable In 1991, Microsoft had 8000 employees. It was producing DOS, Windows 3*, Office, OS/2, tools and compilers. Windows NT was in development. They did not use Jira. I think the main feature of these tools is to make people, who would otherwise be unproductive, feel and look productive. Maybe those people are managers that should…

    Comment linking /history/mirror/ms/microsoft_company.htm

    on “Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable”
  20. Submitted Where did "Aboriginal Linux" come from? Our story so far as a story · 73 points

    HN discussion
  21. For those who liked this text and want to read more from the author, have a look at his busybox replacement toybox: http://landley.net/toybox/

    Comment linking /toybox/

    on “Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin, usr/sbin split (2010)”
  22. Submitted The history of Unix is as much about collaboration as technology (1994) as a story · 55 points

    HN discussion
  23. For this to happen we would have to use our phones as workstations - just connect monitor and input devices. That's current mission of Rob Landley with his Toybox project ¹. Years ahead of us, but probably will happen. Makes projects like Librem 5, Pinephone and Pinebook crucial in the long run. ¹ http://landley.net/toybox/about.html - see the Why section

    Comment linking /toybox/about.html

    on “Linus Torvalds on Why ARM Won't Win the Server Space”
  24. Submitted Rob Landley on the Linux Foundation (2010) as a story · 29 points

    HN discussion
  25. This sounds like Aboriginal Linux: http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html

    Comment linking /aboriginal/about.html

    on “Build yourself a Linux”
  26. Submitted How David Weise got Windows 3 working in protected mode as a story · 26 points

    HN discussion
  27. Rob Landley is working on implementing a full Bash clone (called toysh[1]) in his Toybox project[2]. I'm excited for it to be released - it will be a huge improvement vs. Busybox ash for embedded environments. We'll be able to write scripts that use arrays! [1] https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/pending/s... [2] http://landley.net/toybox/about.html

    Comment linking /toybox/about.html

    on “Minimal safe Bash script template”
  28. Submitted Computer History Resources as a story · 20 points

    HN discussion
  29. Unix was under assault from various sides. The vendors were fighting amongst themselves for supremacy. Take a look at Larry McVoy's "Free Unix" whitepaper. https://www.landley.net/history/mirror/unix/srcos.html IBM had developed OS/2, but was unable to effectively market it, in large part due to the intransigence of its development partner, Microsoft, who had other designs. Microsoft was of course pushing Windows NT…

    Comment linking /history/mirror/unix/srcos.html

    on “The Collapse of the Unix Philosophy”
  30. Submitted The History of OS/2 (2001) as a story · 20 points

    HN discussion

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