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Tech @ Cliqz
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Tech @ Cliqz is the company blog at 0x65.dev, writing about programming, security and web. Since 2019, 42 different Hacker News readers have linked it 124 times, most often “Building a Search Engine from Scratch”. The last post was in 2020, but the archive is still widely read.
Rarely recommended · 3 of 40 sampled comments recommend it?
Why HN links it
HN readers link the Cliqz tech blog for in-depth posts on building a search engine, privacy-preserving data collection, content blockers and the Dat protocol, mostly written by Cliqz staff.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 40 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Cliqz 0x65 – Tech Blog
Most-linked posts?
- Building a Search Engine from Scratch8 people · 11 mentions · first linked 2019-12-06
- /8 people · 10 mentions · first linked 2019-12-04
- Human Web – Data Collection Without Privacy Side-Effects5 people · 6 mentions · first linked 2019-12-03
- HPN – Anonymous Rate Limiting Using Zero Knowledge Proofs4 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2019-12-04
- /4 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2019-12-01
- Privacy or Data, a Convenient False Dichotomy4 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2019-12-02
- Competition is just one click and 27 Billion Dollars away3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2019-12-22
- /3 people · 4 mentions · first linked 2020-05-01
- /blog/2019-12-02/is-data-collection-evil.html3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2019-12-03
- The world needs more search engines3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2019-12-01
What Hacker News says?
https://beta.cliqz.com/ is currently available as any other webpage, and will continue to be available in the same way in the future. I think what's being referred to is another search product (search as you type) we have in the Cliqz Browser. I work on these. The blog referred to: https://0x65.dev/
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on “Every Google result now looks like an ad”Submitted The world needs more search engines as a story · 795 points
HN discussionIt is trivial to de-anonymize if records are linkable, which is the case you mention on Dark Data DEFCON25. Another famous case was the de-anonymization of the Netflix data set. However, you are assuming that HumanWeb data collection is record-linkable, which is not the case, precisely to avoid this attack. If what is being collected is linkable: e.g. (user_id, url_1), ... (urser_id, url_n). No matter how you anonym…
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-03/human-web-collecting-data-in-a-socially-responsible-manner.html
on “Brave buys a search engine, promises no tracking, no profiling”Submitted Why we Forked Firefox and Not Chromium as a story · 483 points
HN discussionMozilla never did such a thing. The browsing history was never sent in any shape or form. As the journalistic article you quote states, Mozilla put in place the HumanWeb[1,2,3], which was a privacy preserving data collection which ensured record-unlinkability, hence no session or history. Anonymity was guaranteed and the framework was extensively tested by privacy researchers from both Cliqz and Mozilla. Disclaimer:…
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-04/human-web-proxy-network-hpn.html
on “Brave buys a search engine, promises no tracking, no profiling”Submitted Building a Search Engine from Scratch as a story · 481 points
HN discussionThere was no tracking on Cliqz, nor it will be any in Brave. To know more about the underlying tech of Cliqz there are interesting posts at https://0x65.dev , some of them covering how signals are collected, data, but no tracking. I did work at Cliqz and now I work at Brave. I can tell for a fact, that all data was, is and will be, record-unlinkable. That means that no-one, not me, not the government, not the ad dep…
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on “Brave buys a search engine, promises no tracking, no profiling”Submitted Indexing Billions of Text Vectors as a story · 252 points
HN discussionThe Cliqz Tech blog : https://0x65.dev contains many informations about how their constructed their private search engine
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on “Brave buys a search engine, promises no tracking, no profiling”Submitted A New Search Engine as a story · 173 points
HN discussionSounds like they built their index by collecting Google search queries done by the users of their browser extension. Suddenly Brave's "completely independent index" doesn't sound quite as impressive. https://www.0x65.dev/blog/2019-12-05/a-new-search-engine.htm...
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-05/a-new-search-engine.html
on “Brave Search beta”Submitted The Architecture of a Large-Scale Web Search Engine, Circa 2019 as a story · 166 points
HN discussionBing and thus DDG's index really isn't that good. Is Microsoft an underdog now? Why do you consider them any better than Google, especially after the "tank man" fiasco? I don't see why it's a bad thing to make your own thing or to only promote your own company. Brave isn't reinventing the wheel either, they purchased & revived Tailcats from Cliqz ( https://0x65.dev/ ) The bang operators are a small feature that are…
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on “Brave Search beta”Submitted Personalized news recommendations and privacy are not mutually exclusive as a story · 101 points
HN discussionMixing with Google results only can happen after opt-in and only in Brave browser. You can see if a single query has been mixed clicking on the `Info`, or check the independence metrics on the `Settings` tab. The fact that you see results similar to Google for popular queries is a by-product of the fact that our ranking is trained using anonymous query-log. There is plenty of references to the methodology ( https://…
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on “Brave Search beta”Submitted Privacy or Data, a Convenient False Dichotomy as a story · 77 points
HN discussionYou know exactly what you're doing. It wasn't a big deal then, and it shouldn't be a big deal now. It's cancel culture and you're participating in it. This is an amazing release and I'm glad Brave revived the technical marvel that was Cliqz, you can see that on display in their blog: https://www.0x65.dev/ But no, you decided to bring up bullshit drama. You're not generally curious, and even if you were, it's not rea…
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on “Brave Search beta”Submitted Pivoting from conventional search to search-as-you-type: Our story with Mozilla as a story · 72 points
HN discussionI would also highly recommend the blog post series [1] from Cliqz talking about the tech behind the search. [1] - https://0x65.dev/
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on “Brave Search beta”Submitted Human Web – Data Collection Without Privacy Side-Effects as a story · 72 points
HN discussionIn December '19 the company that would end up being acquired by Brave did a number of blog posts [0] where they explained the tech. The short answer is 'a lot of word2vec'. [0] https://www.0x65.dev/
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on “Brave Search beta”Submitted How do you spell boscodictiasaur? how we correct spelling and complete queries as a story · 41 points
HN discussionAnd here are all details how we remove all personal information with a technology we call Human Web: https://0x65.dev/blog/2019-12-03/human-web-collecting-data-i... We love to get scrutinized and get feedback on this - we’re very serious about privacy.
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-03/human-web-collecting-data-in-a-socially-responsible-manner.html
on “The world needs more search engines”Submitted Competition is just one click and 27 Billion Dollars away as a story · 18 points
HN discussionThere were extensive tests with opt-in before (Testpilot), but these are super biased towards techies/enthusiasts (by definition if you read HN or use Testpilot you’re not representative ...). At some point you need to both test and get data from more mass market and that would never work with opt-in. Hence the scrutiny about not even technically be able to do record linkage etc. And some of the measures you mention…
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-02/is-data-collection-evil.html
on “The world needs more search engines”Submitted HPN – Anonymous Rate Limiting Using Zero Knowledge Proofs as a story · 17 points
HN discussionHi, Marc from Cliqz. This one haunts us (in HN and also in my dreams). Let's first get one thing clear: It was a terrible blog post. Second: The 1% who had Cliqz installed were actually safer than the ones without. Why? If you use a (most) browsers every keystroke in the URL bar gets send to Google. This is how autosuggest works. This was and is the case with Firefox also. Cliqz in the functionally implemented in Fi…
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on “The world needs more search engines”Submitted Not all adblockers are born equal as a story · 16 points
HN discussionI miss Cliqz. It was a new search engine, with its own crawler, almost completely from scratch. It even had a dev blog where they wrote articles on how to build your own search engine: https://0x65.dev/blog/2019-12-06/building-a-search-engine-fr...
Comment linking /blog/2019-12-06/building-a-search-engine-from-scratch.html
on “We can do better than DuckDuckGo”Submitted Zero-Click Search Results as a story · 16 points
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