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.txt Engineering
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.txt Engineering is the company blog at blog.dottxt.co, writing about ai and programming. Since 2024, 11 different Hacker News readers have linked it 22 times, most often “Structured generation for LLMs performs better - a detailed rebuttal”. No feed was found, so read it on the site itself.
Too few sampled comments (5) to say how often HN recommends it.?
Why HN links it
HN readers cite dottxt's posts on structured and constrained LLM generation, including rebuttals to a paper saying structured outputs harm creativity and a GSM8K performance comparison.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 5 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Most-linked posts?
- Structured generation for LLMs performs better - a detailed rebuttal3 people · 5 mentions · first linked 2024-11-24
- Coalescence: Making LLM inference 5x faster3 people · 3 mentions · first linked 2024-02-02
- How fast can CFG-Structured generation be?2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2024-04-12
- Coding for Structured Generation with LLMs2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2024-06-26
- Beating GPT-4 with open source2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2024-06-18
What Hacker News says?
You should read the follow-up work from Entropix folks, or reflect on the extremely high review scores min_p is getting, or look at the fact the even trivial shit like top_k=2 + temperature = max_int works as evidence that models do in fact "have access to the semantics of what they're sampling" via the ordering of their logprobs. DRY does in fact solve repetition issues. You're not using the right settings with it.…
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on “Things we learned about LLMs in 2024”Submitted Structured Generation Improves LLM Performance: GSM8K Benchmark as a story · 11 points
HN discussionFor anyone who thinks it isn't "solved", outlines debunked the paper which claims that "structured generation harms creativity": https://blog.dottxt.co/say-what-you-mean.html
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on “Mistral Small 3”Submitted How fast can CFG-Structured generation be? as a story · 7 points
HN discussionThere was a paper going around claiming that structured outputs did hurt the quality of the output, but it turns out their experiment setup was laughably bad [0]. It looks like, so long as you're reasonable with the prompting, you tend to get better outputs when using structure. 0. https://blog.dottxt.co/say-what-you-mean.html
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on “Structured Outputs with Ollama”Submitted Coalescence: Making LLM inference 5x faster as a story · 6 points
HN discussionLooks like it’s quite the opposite: http://blog.dottxt.co/performance-gsm8k.html
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on “Tool Use (function calling)”Submitted Beating GPT-4 with open source as a story · 5 points
HN discussionBTW - Structured/Constrained Generation is the KEY to making AI agents better/scary good. Without it, you're leaving so much on the table. This library is awesome for augmenting that capability!!!! Also, if you're "studying LLM based chess" and you don't use dynamic grammar's to enforce that models can only make "valid" moves at each time step, you're research is basically invalid. And don't meme me with claims that…
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on “Show HN: Value likelihoods for OpenAI structured output”Submitted Beating GPT-4 with Open Source as a story · 5 points
HN discussionSubmitted Coalescence: Making LLM inference 5x faster as a story · 5 points
HN discussionSubmitted Making Structured Generation Faster Than Unstructured as a story · 4 points
HN discussionSubmitted Coding for Structured Generation with LLMs as a story · 4 points
HN discussionSubmitted Coding for Structured Generation with LLMs as a story · 3 points
HN discussionSubmitted Every AI Integration Is Held Together with Parsing Logic and Prayer as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted Building an LLM-Powered Web App to Generate Gift Ideas as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted Structured generation for LLMs performs better - a detailed rebuttal as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted Prompt Efficiency – Getting 8-shot LLM performance from 1-shot as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted How fast can grammar-structured LLM generation be? as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted Tokenization Is a Problem for LLMs as a story · 2 points
HN discussionSubmitted Coalescence: Making LLM inference 5x faster as a story · 1 points
HN discussionSubmitted Extracting Financial Data from SEC 10-K Filings with LLMs as a story · 1 points
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