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Ferdy Christant
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Ferdy Christant's personal blog at ferdychristant.com covers programming and design. Since 2018, 15 different Hacker News readers have linked it 20 times, most often “AMP: the missing controversy”. It is still writing: the last post was on 2026-10-02, and you can follow it by feed.
Too few sampled comments (11) to say how often HN recommends it.?
Why HN links it
Essays arguing that Google's AMP is not really fast, that it only looks fast because Google preloads it, and that it is a lock-in for the web. HN readers cite them in AMP threads.
Summarised by Claude from a sample of 11 HN comments that link here. Each comment is marked recommending, critical or neutral (citing without judging); how this works.
Most-linked posts?
- AMP: the missing controversy5 people · 8 mentions · first linked 2018-02-24
- State of web browsers in 20182 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2018-12-05
- The rise, fall and resurrection of Flickr2 people · 2 mentions · first linked 2019-12-27
What Hacker News says?
I'm not trolling. I'm just having a conversation trying to find a middle ground, but I don't think we are there at all. Especially since I'm in the bucket of outlier. > I'd really love to understand how we missed the mark for you, and how we've been hostile, in case that applies to non-outliers and it's something we can improve on. I thought I answered that above: "Sending a FINAL NOTICE and then a more friendly rem…
Comment linking /the-rise-fall-and-resurrection-of-flickr-ca1850410ee1
on “Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative”Submitted AMP: the missing controversy as a story · 247 points
HN discussionhttps://ferdychristant.com/amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424... is relevant to the discussion as well.
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Fight back against Google AMP (2018)”Submitted State of web browsers in 2018 as a story · 218 points
HN discussion> because it is the default on Windows? Which clearly didn't mean anything [1] for increasing market share. [1] https://ferdychristant.com/the-state-of-web-browsers-f5a83a4...
Comment linking /the-state-of-web-browsers-f5a83a41c1cb
on “Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)”Submitted The State of Web Browsers – 2019 edition as a story · 51 points
HN discussionYes, AMP is rather slow: https://timkadlec.com/remembers/2018-03-19-how-fast-is-amp-r... and looks fast mainly because Google preloads it: https://ferdychristant.com/amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424...
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Ask HN: Is it just me or is the AMP project making everything slower?”Submitted The rise, fall and resurrection of Flickr as a story · 3 points
HN discussionIt's not a conspiracy theory. It's the sad reality of the web today. You would've known it if you took more than two seconds paying attention to how AMP was developed, has been developing and is still being developed. And also how Google often holds the web hostage because of it's sheer numbers (search near-monopoly, browser share etc.). You can also read a bit about how "great" AMP is: https://news.ycombinator.com/…
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Neither PWA nor AMP are needed to make a website load fast”Submitted The rise, fall and resurrection of Flickr (2019) as a story · 2 points
HN discussionThe challenge for your marketing is to educate people and to update their beliefs. It would be nice if you ran public benchmarcks of two equivalent app one in Ionic, one in RN (and eventually more (flutter, etc)) If you are empirically the fastest (maybe we will need to wait a few chromium milestones or to manually enable Vulkan) You could market those numbers by showing you are the first to have Vulkan rendering, H…
Comment linking /please-help-make-backdrop-filter-a-reality-f81805ba3d52
on “Ionic React”Submitted JungleDragon Reaches 100K as a story · 2 points
HN discussion> What I'm getting at is maybe AMP is Google's way to make the problem easy. Sometimes when a general problem is difficult, you're better adding restrictions to make the problem tractable. It absolutely is! (Sorry if I made it sound like it wasn't). That's what the goal is of Feature Policy and other standards too: to add restrictions to make it easier to solve. > Can you elaborate? How easy would it be to test AMP…
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “The Two Faces of AMP”Submitted The state of web browsers, late 2018 edition as a story · 2 points
HN discussion> Most of the times, the AMP site is faster Except AMP sites usually aren't faster. They just get preloaded[0]. If google preloaded non-AMP sites (which is technically feasible, there has been browser extensions doing this since ages ago), they too would load "faster", fancy that! There's no good part to AMP. It's bullshit that doesn't really work. Sure in absolute metrics, your website might be "faster" simply by f…
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook”Submitted Color for the Color-Challenged as a story · 1 points
HN discussion> Accusing the AMP guys of ulterior motives is really wearing thin, AFAIK these guys love the web with a passion, they're trying to fend off an assault from native platforms. You are confusing individual people working on the project and the corporation that ultimately decides the entire direction of the project. You are also assuming that all people are inherently good and will immediately leave if something morall…
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Standardizing lessons learned from AMP”Submitted Colombia 2022 Travel Report as a story · 1 points
HN discussionGoogle has had performance guidelines for seveal years now: https://developers.google.com/speed/ Funnily enough, Google’s own AMP fails those guidelines when not preloaded and pre-rendered from Google’s own CDN: https://ferdychristant.com/amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424... Google will continue doing what it does: caching and preloading whatever content it prefers (select publishers, select advertisers) and penaliz…
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Standardizing lessons learned from AMP”A lot if big words disguised as good intentions. There’s nothing fast, instant, or open about AMP. The latest article debunking those myths: https://ferdychristant.com/amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424... Google’s fully opaque process around AMP for email (yes, it’s a thing): https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13597 and https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13600
Comment linking /amp-the-missing-controversy-3b424031047
on “Standardizing lessons learned from AMP”
